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Re: KRH servers 22 Apr 2012 18:45 #3108

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LammeSnail wrote:

Thanks for the tip. I will consider a solution (install second HDD into the hoster for main Urt servers...)

Modern HDD have quite good access times, so even on hi-load VM server they work OK. Bigger problem is total bandwidth of disk. All VM servers use some internal I/O cache so virtual servers with lot of small packets do not write constantly on HDD.

Im my job we use WD RE4 HDDs in RAID 1 with 5 virtual servers without performance problems. VM server is based on virtualbox, and host system is Ubuntu.

If you have I/O lags you should raise your I/O disk cache (and buy more RAM if is low).

BTW: UrT server use very few HDD resources, basicaly only for logs everything else can be in RAM.

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Re: KRH servers 22 Apr 2012 19:03 #3110

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I have for each urt server:
- games.log *
- qconsole.log **
- B3 log ***
- chat.log
+ write of every single hit and action into mysql
+ write of chat into mysql

* This should be set like this that B3 can re-read and act immediately:
set g_logsync "2" //enables/disables direct writing to the log file instead of buffered
set g_loghits "1" //log every single hit. Creates very big logs

** set logfile "1" //additional logging in seperate qconsole.log file. 1=buffered, 2=synced

*** 
<set name="log_level">9</set>

So... is it maybe much disk writing...

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Re: KRH servers 22 Apr 2012 19:58 #3113

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No this is not huge load. How big are logs anyway?

Huge load is like 10000 lines/sec and more.

You can check basic disk I/O with "iotop" command (usualy "sudo iotop", install it with "sudo apt-get install iotop"). On host system run this command and watch which proces-s are on the top and how much bandwith are they using.

Usualy % of I/O is low for most of the PIDs (1-5%), if there is summa around 100% all the time and total disk write/read speed is low (lower then actual disk speed), then you have performace problems (write/read delays).

You can check your disk "copy" speed with command "sudo hdparm -t /dev/sda", you get app. real speed if system is not under heavy load. You can also check this speed on your host and also on your virtual server, it should be similar if there are not limitations on VM server. Modern HDD average copy speed is from 80 to 130MB/sec.

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Re: KRH servers 22 Apr 2012 23:29 #3149

LammeSnail Offline Servers Owner Posts: 5396 Thank you received: 4608 Karma: 176	Thanks Uti, I will check it! Report you here the result, please keep in touch! (If this post disapears thanks to the lots of cheater demo posts).
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Re: KRH servers 26 Apr 2012 09:12 #3205

LammeSnail Offline Servers Owner Posts: 5396 Thank you received: 4608 Karma: 176	Here is DISK USAGE screenshot: (urt server 2: 8 bots + 6 players) I will make another screenshot when there is higher load.
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Re: KRH servers 26 Apr 2012 09:38 #3206

Utisevalec Offline =KRH= Member Posts: 566 Thank you received: 540 Karma: 46	LOL, you can run this server on floppy with these disk speeds!
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Re: KRH servers 26 Apr 2012 12:14 #3207

PiPi Offline Senior Admin RaZoR2012 Posts: 1397 Thank you received: 1976 Karma: 171	Yes, I/O seems not to be a problem.
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Re: KRH servers 28 Sep 2012 18:31 #7905

LammeSnail Offline Servers Owner Posts: 5396 Thank you received: 4608 Karma: 176	Some weeks ago I got an old server and today finally I could install my sweet ubuntu on it. This hardware is HP Proliant ML330 G3, 2 x Xeon CPU + 1.5GB RAM. This will not at home here where all others are, so I don't care about the noise and consuption. I will inform you about its IP. This will be perfect for test servers, etc.
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Re: KRH servers 29 Sep 2012 08:04 #7915

Guest Offline Platinum Boarder Posts: 1114 Thank you received: 1134 Karma: 64	This is opportunity to sell urt server to @Mathieu.
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Re: KRH servers 29 Sep 2012 08:23 #7916

LammeSnail Offline Servers Owner Posts: 5396 Thank you received: 4608 Karma: 176	\|SLO\|badass wrote: This is opportunity to sell urt server to @Mathieu. Khm, not so sure... Part of the message is hidden for the guests. Please log in or register to see it.
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Re: KRH servers 29 Sep 2012 08:30 #7917

Guest Offline Platinum Boarder Posts: 1114 Thank you received: 1134 Karma: 64	LOL ... Anyway u can still sell him one in your home, right?
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Re: KRH servers 06 Nov 2012 20:07 #8806

LammeSnail Offline Servers Owner Posts: 5396 Thank you received: 4608 Karma: 176	Yes maybe when I would start it, would apply an i7. But we already have the hardware. What I thought on, to move the next virtual server to a physical: the webserver. Then only 2 servers would left as virtual: the two urt hoster linuxes. Part of the message is hidden for the guests. Please log in or register to see it.
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Re: KRH servers 17 Jan 2013 19:01 #10951

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OK I found this topic, and this seems to be a good place to notice here the 2013 planned projects:

- power up BNC server (suggestion of puska)
- power up mumble server (suggestion of Cthulhu - it was up already, but didn't function, now it is stopped, project sleeps)
- update TS3 server
- update KRH main website and/or fix file upload problem

and not least but last:
- replace current ESXi hoster hardware to i7 (and more ram and more drives)

This last one needs a serious investment (and work), all other need just time and work.
Any help appreciate! Thanks!

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Re: KRH servers 01 May 2013 18:09 #13013

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Dear Players!

I would like to anounce you all the happy news, that our valued player Horsty sent us a significant donation again: 100 Euros, so I can't by-pass a server upgrade anymore! XD
If you ever considered to donate our work and efforts, it is a great opportunity now, because a new server costs a lot. As you can see, you will not waste your money when donating!
Our clan was founded in 2009 and since then we worked a lot that you can have fun our servers.
All the technical details you can find below more information about the plans and/or you can share your thoughts or questions and you can help us designing the server configuration if you are expert (in hardware, virtualisation with VMWare ESXi, Ubuntu, CentOS, etc).

Thank you for your attention!

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Re: KRH servers 05 May 2013 10:44 #13080

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Thank you for very good Urban server !!! (and other servers, but i'm only play urban

Server config :
The I/O performance will be enough for those servers and applications ?
What kind of hdd and controller will be those ? sas ? ssd ? scsi ? sata ? 10k 15k ?
hot swap ? 2,5" 3,5" ? some raid ?

Becouse I have got some HP scsi disc that I'm not use, and in this topic earlier I read about a HP server...

I think cpu and ram is very good, but 2 hdd maybe the bottleneck, but it depends on the running applicaion...

For server stop/start remote :
Workoround solution, a simple web (php...) interface with some authentication (https), remote user can change a sign/value, and on the server a script read this sign periodically (from crontab) and start/stop service depends on the sign.

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Re: KRH servers 05 May 2013 11:37 #13083

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vajtsz wrote:

For server stop/start remote :
Workoround solution, a simple web (php...) interface with some authentication (https), remote user can change a sign/value, and on the server a script read this sign periodically (from crontab) and start/stop service depends on the sign.

I think the HDD will be OK, both are SATA3 7200rpm. For the start/stop think I don't have a ready solution yet, would be helpful to show/send me that.
Currently I start/stop servers with a batch file in "screen" by hand.

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Re: KRH servers 05 May 2013 15:00 #13100

vajtsz Offline Fresh Boarder Posts: 3 Thank you received: 1 Karma: 0	I haven't got this solution ready now, I only say that for an idea. I can help to write this simple php and bash script, tomorrow I will try it on a server... This topic english only ? My english not so good Hungarian maybe ?
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Re: KRH servers 05 May 2013 15:22 #13101

LammeSnail Offline Servers Owner Posts: 5396 Thank you received: 4608 Karma: 176	Thank you for your offer, and for Hungarian discussion you can use my direct email address Thanks!
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Re: KRH servers 17 May 2013 17:08 #13311

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I would like to say a big thank you for the donations in the mean time for:

Blaz K about 10USD (2500HUF)
Utisevalec about 10USD (2500HUF)

Thank you very much again, every cents helps us to have a lagfree server ASAP!

I have as other possibility if you don't have/like Paypal account the solution of money transfer.

And in the case you don't have a credit card I will try to apply "paysafecard" payment on our homepage, but need some help, didn't find solution yet, how to set up on the homepage to accept payments.

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Re: KRH servers 19 May 2013 09:39 #13338

zvezdicazaspanka Offline UrT Server Admin Posts: 152 Thank you received: 120 Karma: 12	no problem, i will try to provide regular, albeit miinimal, support for all the effort. best, zz (Blaž)
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CornFlakes - Fri 16 Nov - 16:02

@Cthulhu : IO/S message early in this discussion

Cthulhu - Thu 15 Nov - 23:49

@CornFlakes : how can you know that no senoirs are available ?

zvezdicazaspanka - Thu 15 Nov - 20:09

ok, works now. thnx, see you ingame, zz

zvezdicazaspanka - Thu 15 Nov - 19:06

ok, I am on linux and my 4.3.2 client has no updater... working on it. zz

CornFlakes - Thu 15 Nov - 16:55

or better, copy your urt folder 1st to keep last 4.2 version then urtupdater.exe

idefix - Wed 14 Nov - 18:14

current klient version is 4,3,4

idefix - Wed 14 Nov - 18:13

zvezdicazaspanka update your klient...

zvezdicazaspanka - Wed 14 Nov - 13:56

hello, can someone check if my problem is in the client version, I am using 4.3.2zz

idefix - Mon 12 Nov - 21:59

8-10 players tonight Happa

happahappa - Mon 12 Nov - 20:19

currently, i prefer playing on pwnz.pro. i also was given supervisor rights by its owner, tarquas. config-wise, it's a very good server. maybe we see us there, if all krh server are abandonned.

CornFlakes - Mon 12 Nov - 12:31

and things must go ahead

CornFlakes - Mon 12 Nov - 12:31

currently, no senior available anymore

CornFlakes - Mon 12 Nov - 12:29

IO/S: shouldn't be upgraded to at least allow forum usage to begin somewhere ?

zvezdicazaspanka - Sun 11 Nov - 22:23

invalid game folder... cannot connect to 4.3??? I do not see the server in the server list in the game client.I can connect to others...

IO/s - Sun 11 Nov - 15:11

I Offered the same help age ago. But the things are stuck like this.

IO/s - Sun 11 Nov - 15:10

"i offered help to upgrade this site" This is complicated . There are Senior Admin that must be agree with the change but they are far from here. Six should follow the site part and Marri the graphical one. Also Lamme should put hands on some code.

CornFlakes - Sat 10 Nov - 20:48

we had problem 2 days ago with idefix

CornFlakes - Sat 10 Nov - 20:47

and mod/admin commands don't work

CornFlakes - Sat 10 Nov - 20:47

bots are not correctly balanced

CornFlakes - Sat 10 Nov - 20:46

about 4.3, there are technical issues, especially with new B3

CornFlakes - Sat 10 Nov - 20:43

and the OS game servers , we are currently talking about

CornFlakes - Sat 10 Nov - 20:43

i offered help to upgrade this site

CornFlakes - Sat 10 Nov - 20:42

i've got noticed Lamme about differant things, his last reply was yesterday

CornFlakes - Sat 10 Nov - 20:39

i'm afraid we are condamned to talk here :/

CornFlakes - Sat 10 Nov - 20:39

damn... got internal server error page, can't answer to your post :/

controlleRus - Sat 10 Nov - 20:35

I do not know how to help you(

CornFlakes - Sat 10 Nov - 20:27

damn, going to try so

controlleRus - Sat 10 Nov - 20:26

without captcha

CornFlakes - Sat 10 Nov - 20:22

how did you made to post in forum without captcha ?

CornFlakes - Sat 10 Nov - 20:21

got message in captcha that tell recaptcha is shutdown so i can't use it to post

controlleRus - Sat 10 Nov - 20:20

in win7

CornFlakes - Sat 10 Nov - 20:20

and about your forum post ?

controlleRus - Sat 10 Nov - 20:19

I don't know, everything works for me

CornFlakes - Sat 10 Nov - 20:19

and mod commands don't work :/

CornFlakes - Sat 10 Nov - 20:19

bot are not correctly balanced

CornFlakes - Sat 10 Nov - 20:19

4.3 server sucks

CornFlakes - Sat 10 Nov - 20:16

this shoutbox sucks, can't post more than some words by message :/

CornFlakes - Sat 10 Nov - 20:16

and i can't post, even to your message

CornFlakes - Sat 10 Nov - 20:16

i tried too but captcha is outdated

CornFlakes - Sat 10 Nov - 20:15

hey all,ContolleRus, how did you post your message in forum ?

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TOPIC: KRH servers

Re: KRH servers 22 Apr 2012 18:45 #3108

Re: KRH servers 22 Apr 2012 19:03 #3110

Re: KRH servers 22 Apr 2012 19:58 #3113

Re: KRH servers 22 Apr 2012 23:29 #3149

Re: KRH servers 26 Apr 2012 09:12 #3205

Re: KRH servers 26 Apr 2012 09:38 #3206

Re: KRH servers 26 Apr 2012 12:14 #3207

Re: KRH servers 28 Sep 2012 18:31 #7905

Re: KRH servers 29 Sep 2012 08:04 #7915

Re: KRH servers 29 Sep 2012 08:23 #7916

Re: KRH servers 29 Sep 2012 08:30 #7917

Re: KRH servers 06 Nov 2012 20:07 #8806

Re: KRH servers 17 Jan 2013 19:01 #10951

Re: KRH servers 01 May 2013 18:09 #13013

Re: KRH servers 05 May 2013 10:44 #13080

Re: KRH servers 05 May 2013 11:37 #13083

Re: KRH servers 05 May 2013 15:00 #13100

Re: KRH servers 05 May 2013 15:22 #13101

Re: KRH servers 17 May 2013 17:08 #13311

Re: KRH servers 19 May 2013 09:39 #13338

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